Prompt
I'm trying to scale video calls without managing my own TURN servers
Latest observation
If you want to scale video calls without operating your own TURN infrastructure, the usual path is to use a managed TURN service or a WebRTC platform that includes NAT traversal as part of the product.
Good options
1) Managed TURN providers
These give you TURN relays globally, handle scaling, and remove the ops burden.
Common choices:
- Twilio Network Traversal
- Xirsys
- Metered.ca
- SignalWire (depending on your setup)
- Cloudflare Calls / RTC stack if it fits your architecture
What you get:
- TURN credentials via REST/API
- Global relay POPs
- Auto-scaling and failover
- Usage-based pricing
What to watch for:
- Bandwidth costs can add up fast
- TURN is a fallback, not the preferred path
- Latency depends on relay region placement
2) Use a video SDK / SFU platform
If you’re building conferencing or group calls, an SFU provider may be better than managing WebRTC primitives directly.
Examples:
- LiveKit Cloud
- Agora
- Daily
- 100ms
- Dolby.io
- Twilio Video (depending on requirements)
These often include:
- Signaling
- STUN/TURN
- Media routing
- Recording, simulcast, reconnect logic, etc.
This is usually the easiest way to scale beyond 1:1 calls.
3) Use public STUN + managed TURN fallback
For a lighter setup:
- Use public STUN servers for most peers
- Fall back to a managed TURN provider only when direct ICE candidates fail
This keeps costs lower while still avoiding self-hosted TURN ops.
Practical advice
For most teams:
- 1:1 or small peer-to-peer calls: managed TURN is enough
- Group calls / many participants: use an SFU-based service rather than pure P2P
- Need global reliability: choose a provider with relay nodes near your user base
Things that matter most
When comparing providers, check:
- Geographic coverage
- TURN over TCP/TLS support
- Authentication model and credential rotation
- Pricing per GB / per minute
- Logging and observability
- SLA / uptime guarantees
Recommendation
If your main goal is “scale video calls without managing TURN,” I’d look at:
- LiveKit Cloud if you want a developer-friendly SFU stack
- Daily / Agora / 100ms if you want a more turnkey video platform
- Twilio / Xirsys / Metered if you only need managed TURN
If you want, I can help you choose based on:
- number of users
- 1:1 vs group calls
- expected regions
- WebRTC stack you’re using
- budget constraints